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    #41
    Originally posted by stealthradon View Post
    Why did Canelo throw a low ball offer to GGG?



    tut tut... Canelo increased that offer to a shockingly undeserved 45%

    Hypekin avoided the guy who was holding his " dream " to select Vanes

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      #42
      You understand that they didn’t get offered $12 million right?

      They didn’t even get an offer in that ball park.

      3-4 times their career high payday means about $5 million.

      Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
      Is this Al Haymon??? Ain’t no one paying Andrade and Saunders $12 million not named Canelo.

      I’ll match you $$4$$$ on that bet. Only reason Jacobs is again because he negotiated that in his fight with Canelo.

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        #43
        Canelo needs to fight Andrade.

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          #44
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook (or Eubank)... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... and the reason why is clearly obvious... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook (or Eubank)
          The only fact that is real is that Saunders did not want to fight Golovkin as I pointed out in my post.
          He flat out called the offer "life changing money," but then went on to say it was too risky.

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            #45
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            tut tut... Canelo increased that offer to a shockingly undeserved 45%

            Hypekin avoided the guy who was holding his " dream " to select Vanes
            If he didn't like going to 45% he could have walked away. He didn't because he wanted the title. It's all about leverage. There is nothing shocking about it. When Canelo failed his drug test he opened himself up to renegotiating and lost some of his leverage. The other side took advantage of it and Canelo's team caved in.

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              #46
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook (or Eubank)... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... and the reason why is clearly obvious... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook (or Eubank)
              Obvious to you, man, but that's cos it fits in with your weird narrative. To more rational folk the most obvious reason was that HBO was paying for GGGs opponents - other than Eubank / Brook - and were operating on a reduced budget. You know. Like grown up reasons.

              You really don't get how ****** your obsession makes you, man, do ya?

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                #47
                Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                The only fact that is real is that Saunders did not want to fight Golovkin as I pointed out in my post.
                He flat out called the offer "life changing money," but then went on to say it was too risky.


                you talk utter rubbish

                they offered Saunders $1.5mil... said, take-it-or-leave-it... and then quickly ran off to sign yet another no-hoper

                NEWS FLASH: that is not how to make a fight you muppet

                oh, then they ran off to the media and pulled their usual lame schtick...

                **** in Loefflers voice ****

                " *chuckle* well... we cant force these guys to fight Gennady "

                oh, nearly forgot... then they leaked that their offer was $4m

                which Saunders immediately said was a downright lie, the offer was $1.5m... the exact same lowball offer they threw at Danny Jacobs

                Tony Baloney... stop pulling that lame casual-fan bullshlt

                stop twisting out-of-negotiation comments and pretending they mean something, you dumb kid

                there were 3 REAL opportunities for that fight to happen

                1) they threw Saunders a $1.5m lowball, and then quickly ran off to sign yet another no-hoper

                2) BJS signed to fight Golovkin in Kazakhstan, but Golovkin understandably selected Canelo... so stop that ducking bullshlt you childish moron, if anyone avoided it was Golovkin

                3) BJS said " I will fight you in June "... but Golovkin selected Vanes

                if Golovkin had fought Saunders instead of Vanes, for UNDISPUTED... he would not have been stripped by the IBF, because a unification > a mando

                stop talking bollocks you excuse-making muppet

                FACT: the guys who found $4.5m+ to share with Kell Brook... but could only find $1.5m to share with Billy-Joe Saunders... were in no hurry whatsoever to fight BJS

                and do not pull that " Brook is a star " rubbish... Brook was not - AND STILL IS NOT - a star... that rubbish was started by idiot Golovkin fans, he is no more well-known than Saunders

                and btw, Saunders did not ask for more money, he wanted that fight in the UK if they were only willing to pay him $1.5m

                FACT: they were willing to fight Brook in the UK, but they were not willing to fight Saunders in the UK... and they were not willing to pay him a THIRD of what they paid Kell Brook... which tells the whole story right there

                and NO... switching Eubanks purse to Kell Brook was not necessary, nor does it have anything to do with the fact that they were not willing to split the pot fairly with Saunders.. the money was either there from the Brook fight, or it was not... don't try to pretend that they voluntarily took a loss on Brook by paying him 3x more than they had to

                Canelo gave Golovkin 45% because he REALLY wanted that fight... Golovkin offered Saunders $1.5m because he did not want that fight, as his selection of Vanes proved

                btw, don't argue, I have links for everything...
                24.com/2016/03/saunders-offered-1-5m-golovkin-fight-not-4m/


                Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                If he didn't like going to 45% he could have walked away. He didn't because he wanted the title. It's all about leverage. There is nothing shocking about it. When Canelo failed his drug test he opened himself up to renegotiating and lost some of his leverage. The other side took advantage of it and Canelo's team caved in.


                they caved in, because Canelo was desperate for that fight

                Canelo was desperate... because of the result in the first fight, and because of the positive drug test

                nothing in that situation is similar to Smith and Saunders

                and Canelo is a even bigger star now than he was before moving up to 160

                I agree that Canelo should - and probably will - offer them more

                chill man... you have no idea what is going to happen, who Canelo will select

                sit back quietly and wait happily for the Golovkin/Sacramento fight... rather than criticize a guy who will obviously select a much better opponent
                Last edited by aboutfkntime; 02-17-2020, 05:29 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
                  Obvious to you, man, but that's cos it fits in with your weird narrative. To more rational folk the most obvious reason was that HBO was paying for GGGs opponents - other than Eubank / Brook - and were operating on a reduced budget. You know. Like grown up reasons.

                  You really don't get how ****** your obsession makes you, man, do ya?



                  hey moron... they could have fought Saunders under the exact same terms they fought Brook

                  it is absurd to suggest that the money they could afford to offer for a middleweight unification to become undisputed... was only a THIRD what they could offer an unknown welterweight

                  you excuse-making muppet LMAO

                  and what about refusing to fight Saunders in June, to become UNDISPUTED... preferring instead to select Vanes... what is your excuse for that?

                  the fact is, they were clearly in no hurry to make that fight... they bent over backward to justify fighting scrubs, and would not lift a finger to fight a world class treat... just like when they totally refused to negotiate on weight with little 153lb Cotto, but were happy to fight Rosado at 158

                  like I said... you churn out the excuses, just like the other muppets

                  #tarredandfeathered
                  Last edited by aboutfkntime; 02-17-2020, 05:31 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                    Floyd Mayweather didn’t fight in the DAZN purse era.
                    ... some people here pretend to "forget" that Floyd's purses were exclusively "PPV-related" (and not "stream-related"...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                      You understand that they didn’t get offered $12 million right?

                      They didn’t even get an offer in that ball park.

                      3-4 times their career high payday means about $5 million.
                      Callum smith and Groves split £6 million for the WBSS final and I know the winner got a bigger portion. So Oscar is talking garbage regardless, I think an offer around $6-7 million would prob get the fight done, and that still would only be on par or a bit more than Smith's biggest pay day.

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