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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Again I didn’t say that so why do you keep asking me?

    It isn’t as cut and dry as you are pretending just to argue with me.

    A gerrymandered jury’s verdict is not always the right call. IMO a fair and diverse jury produces a fair and accurate verdict based on facts that is right.

    Can we move forward now.
    I am asking you in general, what's your stance on this. A jury's verdict is not always the right call. Correct?

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      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

      I am asking you in general, what's your stance on this. A jury's verdict is not always the right call. Correct?
      Can’t answer that other than the way I already have on multiple occasions. You are refusing to move forward.

      In the case of Chauvin, no. The jury verdict was the right call

      You can’t make it a yes or no question that implies all juries are the same when they’re not.

      Its like asking - does a snake bite kill you yes or no? It depends on the snake. Depends on the toxins in their poison. Can’t be limited to yes or no.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-07-2025, 04:17 PM.
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        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        What Dr lied?
        the doctor in the trial

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          Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

          the doctor in the trial
          I didn’t see him accused of lying at all. Can you show me where specifically.
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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            I didn’t see him accused of lying at all. Can you show me where specifically.
            i accused him... he misled the jury saying floydys breathing rate was normal, it was 22 which is considered high... that was a crucial part of the trial and he misled the jury

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              Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

              i accused him... he misled the jury saying floydys breathing rate was normal, it was 22 which is considered high... that was a crucial part of the trial and he misled the jury
              Lmfao. Stop wasting my time with ridiculous claims like this Madison.
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                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                Lmfao. Stop wasting my time with ridiculous claims like this Madison.
                how is it ridiculous? 22 is considered high, the doctor would have known this so why did he say it was normal? it was a lie

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                  Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

                  how is it ridiculous? 22 is considered high, the doctor would have known this so why did he say it was normal? it was a lie
                  You are ridiculous. You should be embarrassed. Your opinion is worthless as you are not involved in any way.. Stop wasting time.

                  I accused him. Lmfao.

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                    LMAO. It's hysterical seeing the bumbling buffoon Madison claim he can correct a renown pulmonologist.

                    Dr. Tobin testified that his calculations were for a 46 year old male of a specific height.

                    Madison is claiming that 22 breaths per minute is high, but when I told him that Dr. Tobin would factor in things like age, he ignored it. I even showed him this, that he ignored:

                    Normal range

                    For humans, the typical respiratory rate for a healthy adult at rest is 12–15 breaths per minute. The sets the quiet at around two seconds for an inhalation and three seconds exhalation. This gives the lower of the average rate at 12 breaths per minute.

                    Average resting respiratory rates by age are:[]
                    • birth to 6 weeks: 30–40 breaths per minute
                    • 6 months: 25–40 breaths per minute
                    • 3 years: 20–30 breaths per minute
                    • 6 years: 18–25 breaths per minute
                    • 10 years: 17–23 breaths per minute
                    • Adults: 15–18 breaths per minute
                    • 50 years: 18-25 breaths per minute
                    • Elderly ≥ 65 years old: 12–28 breaths per minute.
                    • Elderly ≥ 80 years old: 10-30 breaths per minute.
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_rate
                    So was 22 breaths per minute high? No.


                    But the funniest part of all this is that if GF overdosed, his respiratory rate would be 40% LOWER than normal. This idiot doesn't even realize that he is arguing against his own claim
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                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      Huh? I guess you’re making a semantics argument. The medical examiner said officers' restraint of his body and compression of his neck were the primary causes.​

                      While that isn’t specifically asphyxiation as you stated, it’s pretty clear it’s the primary factor.

                      He didn’t die because of that. That was proven incorrect at trial.

                      This hold was banned. I asked that you show where it was legal in the police rules. I didn’t see where you posted anything to support that.

                      The only people who seem to want a retrial are pro cop, far right wing voters that display hatred for black people.

                      I didn’t ask you that. I asked why did he lie on the report if he want guilty?
                      Floyd was already saying he couldn’t breathe when he was standing up and NOT being restrained.

                      Being pro cop and right wing doesn’t have to mean that one has hatred for black people. There definitely is a low tolerance for criminals, though.

                      The knee-on-neck restraining hold was banned after the incident but it was permitted at the time of the incident.

                      “The Minneapolis Police Department banned all forms of neck restraints and chokeholds weeks after Floyd’s death, but at the time of his May 25 arrest by Derek Chauvin and other officers, certain neck restraints were permitted​…The department policy, in place for at least eight years at the time, divided permissible neck restraints into two categories, according to court filings and testimony Monday by the city Neck restraints were defined in the policy as a “non-deadly force option.”​

                      One, called a “conscious neck restraint,” was for light pressure applied to the neck to help control a person without rendering unconsciousness. It was permitted for a person actively resisting.​

                      The other was an “unconscious neck restraint,” in which officers could use their arms or legs to knock out a person by pressing carotid arteries on either side of the neck, blocking blood flow to the brain. The policy called for it to be used only for a person “exhibiting active aggression” or actively resisting when lesser attempts to control the person had failed or were likely to fail.​“

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